Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

STEPHEN COHEN

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Nonsense. Anything that endangers the safety and security of state is an emergency. If a terrorist blows up a nuclear bomb, automatically India will go into a state of emergency.


Mamta is doing internal armed rebellion. mamta+ corona= maro na.

The Tools to tackle Bengal like situation are different

1 President Rule
2 Disturbed Areas Act AND AFSPA
3 NSA

But since her Govt is a newly elected one, these measures won t be taken immediately

Rather let the Media coverage and Judiciary's Intervention happen first
 

burnall

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The Tools to tackle Bengal like situation are different

1 President Rule
2 Disturbed Areas Act AND AFSPA
3 NSA

But since her Govt is a newly elected one, these measures won t be taken immediately

Rather let the Media coverage and Judiciary's Intervention happen first

why don't we then just sit twiddling thumbs as corona consumes the country and kills everyone. Maybe we should just hug corona and get ourselves killed in the meanwhile.
 
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randomradio

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Nonsense. Anything that endangers the safety and security of state is an emergency. If a terrorist blows up a nuclear bomb, automatically India will go into a state of emergency.

Nope. Emergency is meant to deal with security threats from human beings, not from animals, plants or acts of god.
 
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burnall

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Nope. Emergency is meant to deal with security threats from human beings, not from animals, plants or acts of god.


BS - no one said it has to be from human beings: Besides mamta, khujli etc. is not human being.

A state of emergency India refers to a period of governance under an altered constitutional setup that can be proclaimed by the President of India, when the consultant group perceives and warns against grave threats to the nation from internal and external sources or from financial situations of crisis.
 

STEPHEN COHEN

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why don't we then just sit twiddling thumbs as corona consumes the country and kills everyone. Maybe we should just hug corona and get ourselves killed in the meanwhile.

Have you heard of Sero positive surveys

These random surveys detect antibodies in people who Never were tested or were known to be affected by corona , ie completely Asymptomatic cases

So far at least One Third population has been infected by Corona
 

Saaho

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Nope. Emergency is meant to deal with security threats from human beings, not from animals, plants or acts of god.
*Ahem* There is epidemic disease act of 1875 and financial emergency acts which can be used. Both of them give emergency powers to centre.

Besides, the language was changed from "internal disturbance" to "armed rebellion" by Janata Party. All it will take is another amendment to change the language. If BJP and Modi want they can do it. They can change armed rebellion back to original vague internal disturbance.
 

randomradio

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BS - no one said it has to be from human beings: Besides mamta, khujli etc. is not human being.

A state of emergency India refers to a period of governance under an altered constitutional setup that can be proclaimed by the President of India, when the consultant group perceives and warns against grave threats to the nation from internal and external sources or from financial situations of crisis.

Why don't you read the actual text from the constitution? It's public knowledge.

Try to figure out what act coronavirus falls under as well.
 

randomradio

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*Ahem* There is epidemic disease act of 1875 and financial emergency acts which can be used. Both of them give emergency powers to centre.

Besides, the language was changed from "internal disturbance" to "armed rebellion" by Janata Party. All it will take is another amendment to change the language. If BJP and Modi want they can do it. They can change armed rebellion back to original vague internal disturbance.

Yep. The epidemic disease act has been in force since the beginning of last year.

Emergency is for political and military situations, not for diseases and natural disasters. Diseases are not internal disturbances or armed rebellions.

But emergency would definitely apply if we end up dealing with zombies.
 

Saaho

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Emergency is for political and military situations, not for diseases and natural disasters. Diseases are not internal disturbances or armed rebellions.
There is NO definition of internal disturbances. The very reason why indra gandhi was able to apply emergency was this only. Modi can do it too. With a little bit of creative thinking. If Kashmir's 370 can be revoked by creative use of 370, emergency can be declared too by terming Corona as a Chine... errr... "external" biological warfare agent. He can claim that India has reason to suspect that the virus is a biological weapon. Heck, there is a reasearch paper that also suggests that. After all there is no definitive proof that it is not. So "epidemic" will become a "biological/baterilogical warfare". Hence, emergency is justified. India people will also accept it.

Actually it will come down to this. All cabinet ministers need to agree and president needs to endrose. After that, there is no court, there is nothing anyone can do.
he was a closet liberandu anyway. What is so surprising?
Easy man. The guy is responsible for providing us the only large scale solution to covid.
 

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There is NO definition of internal disturbances. The very reason why indra gandhi was able to apply emergency was this only. Modi can do it too. With a little bit of creative thinking. If Kashmir's 370 can be revoked by creative use of 370, emergency can be declared too by terming Corona as a Chine... errr... "external" biological warfare agent. He can claim that India has reason to suspect that the virus is a biological weapon. Heck, there is a reasearch paper that also suggests that. After all there is no definitive proof that it is not. So "epidemic" will become a "biological/baterilogical warfare". Hence, emergency is justified. India people will also accept it.

Actually it will come down to this. All cabinet ministers need to agree and president needs to endrose. After that, there is no court, there is nothing anyone can do.

Easy man. The guy is responsible for providing us the only large scale solution to covid.

he's always high on LSD and is making billions making the vaccine. so nothing to complain.
 

Saaho

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he's always high on LSD and is making billions making the vaccine. so nothing to complain.
1. Why do you care what he does in his personal life? You are not his father.
2. SII is biggest vaccine maker in the world. They are predicted to have a revenue of $4 billion (not profit, just revenue or sales) in two years. For a comparison, Pfizer is having a revenue of $18 billion.
 
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burnall

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1. Why do you care what he does in his personal life? You are not his father.
2. SII is biggest vaccine maker in the world. They are predicted to have a revenue of $4 billion (not profit, just revenue or sales) in two years. For a comparison, Pfizer is having a revenue of $18 billion.

he's not doing anyone any favors. He's making billions off this. Least he can do is not discredit the govt.
 

Saaho

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he's not doing anyone any favors. He's making billions off this. Least he can do is not discredit the govt.
Imagine a situation in which he was NOT making any vaccines. What would have happened?
1. A lot of dead doctors and nurses.
2. A lot of dead elderlies.
3. A lot of dead working age people.
Our health care would have absolutely collapsed with doctors and nurses not even coming forth to treat patients because of fear of virus.

Pandemic in India would have become a 5+ year long affair.

In current situation, selling vaccines is a favour. Ask Canada, they are ready to pay more than double of what India pays for the same vaccine and then thanking those who provide them the vaccine for a price. The fact that we have ability to make vaccines in such a large number in the country is all thanks to him.
 

burnall

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Imagine a situation in which he was NOT making any vaccines. What would have happened?
1. A lot of dead doctors and nurses.
2. A lot of dead elderlies.
3. A lot of dead working age people.
Our health care would have absolutely collapsed with doctors and nurses not even coming forth to treat patients because of fear of virus.

Pandemic in India would have become a 5+ year long affair.

In current situation, selling vaccines is a favour. Ask Canada, they are ready to pay more than double of what India pays for the same vaccine. The fact that we have ability to make vaccines in such a large number in the country is all thanks to him.

Then someone else would be making vaccines. Entrepreneurs flood into places where there is money.
 
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Saaho

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Then someone else would be making vaccines. Entrepreneurs flood into places where there is money.
Is someone else stepping in this place? I doubt that. The fact that he and his family has set up a low cost vaccine capability is more than admirable.

In Canada, there is no "someone" who has stepped foreward after Canadian government nationalized its vaccine maker (Cannaught Laboratories) in 70s and then closed it. Right now, Canada is dependent upon favors from USA and EU to vaccinate its people. Imagine India in that situation. We take entrepenures for granted. This is our biggest folly.

Beside then you will be thankful to that someone. Because someone needs to do it. Certainly you are not doing it for yourself because you cann't.