Chinese Economy : Updates and Discussions


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Dec 4, 2017
IndoPacific News (@IndoPac_Info) Tweeted:
#China blocks Shanghai stock market pact with London due to political tensions - The bully is at it again......

China has fired a warning shot at Prime Minister Boris Johnson by suspending a tie-up between London and Shanghai’s stock exchanges
The Great Trade Wall: China blocks market pact with London | This is Money ( )



Boorish Johnson is in a Royal pickle. Damned if he does & damned if he doesn't.


Senior member
Dec 4, 2017
It's a sign they're struggling.

I've just realised that Xi Jinping looks a lot like me....

...when I'm squeezing out an extremely stubborn turd.


Senior member
Dec 4, 2017
They really should stop equipping cowsheds with Wi-Fi.


Senior member
Dec 4, 2017

A huge development which went completely below the radar.

Can you explain the implications for lay people? @Nilgiri

Not much significance (to world), it doesnt have blockchain running its the same govt policy blah behind it. Hence peg to usual RMB too.

Essentially it can just never be printed into cash/bills etc avoiding the last "5%" of other currencies in general... (i.e in this case unlike usual RMB which 95% is essentially de facto virtual too). So it would be much more resilient to not be hoarded and used for black market etc.

The significance would only really be if RMB (i.e cash) is scrapped and China moves to electronic currency fully (to essentially fully operationalise the internal advantage). Who knows when that will happen.


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Dec 22, 2017
China's biggest gold fraud, 4% of its reserves may be fake: Report
The 83 tons of purportedly pure gold stored in creditors' coffers by Kingold as of June, backing the 16 billion yuan of loans, would be equivalent to 22 per cent of China's annual gold production and 4.2 per cent of the state gold reserve as of 2019.
By IANS | Updated: Jun 30, 2020, 02.01 PM IST

China is at the centre of the discovery of what may be one of the biggest gold counterfeiting scandal in recent history.
According to a report in Zero Hedge, not only does it involve China, but it emerges from a city that has become synonymous for all that is scandalous about China: Wuhan itself.

The 83 tons of purportedly pure gold stored in creditors' coffers by Kingold as of June, backing the 16 billion yuan of loans, would be equivalent to 22 per cent of China's annual gold production and 4.2 per cent of the state gold reserve as of 2019.
In short, more than 4 per cent of China's official gold reserves may be fake. And this assume that no other Chinese gold producers and jewelry makers are engaging in similar fraud, the report said.

In early June, Minsheng Trust, Dongguan Trust and a smaller creditor Chang'An Trust filed lawsuits against Kingold and demanded that PICC P&C cover their losses.
PICC P&C declined to comment to Caixin on the matter but said the case is in judicial procedure. A source from PICC P&C told Caixin that the claim procedure should be initiated by Kingold as the insured party rather than financial institutions as beneficiaries. Kingold hasn't made a claim, the Caixin source said.

In total, Kingold pledge tens of thousands of kilograms of gold to no less than 14 creditors amounting to just under 20 billion yuan.
The Zero Hedge report said that this exposes just how multi-faceted fraud is in China: capitalizing on pre-existing cronyism and connections with China's powerful army, the founder of Kingold was allowed to basically do anything he wanted, no questions asked, including counterfeiting over 83 tons of gold bars to get billions in funds to participate in China's housing bubble, only for a series of unexpected events to unwind the frauds one after another and expose the type of sordid scandal that is at the heart of most Chinese "enterprises" and business ventures.

As for the gold, several billion in gold bars never existed and yet resulted in a cascade of subsequent cash flow events allowing tens of billions in funds to be released, "benefiting" not only founder Jia, but China's broader economy.
Which is terrifying because whereas just after the financial crisis China was engaged in building ghost cities, everyone knew these were a symbol of demand that would never materialize, even if the cities themselves did exist. However, it now appears that a major part of China's subsequent economic boom has been predicated on tens of billions in hard assets -- such as gold -- which simply do not exist, the report said.
Kingold is certainly not the only Chinese company engaging in such blatant fraud, and the consequences are clear: once Chinese creditors or insurance companies start testing the "collateral" they have received in exchange for tens of billions in loans and discover, to their "amazement", that instead of gold they are proud owners of tungsten or copper, they have two choices: reveal the fraud, risking tremendous adverse consequences and/or prison time, or quietly buy up all the gold needed to literally fill the void from years of gold counterfeiting.
At the centre of the fraud is Wuhan Kingold Jewelry Inc., a company which as the name implies was founded and operates out of Wuhan, and which says it is a "A Company with a Golden future."
In retrospect, it probably meant "copper" future, because as a an expose by Caixin has found, more than a dozen Chinese financial institutions, mainly trust companies (i.e., shadow banks) loaned 20 billion yuan ($2.8 billion) over the past five years to Wuhan Kingold Jewelry with pure gold as collateral and insurance policies to cover any losses. There was just one problem: the "gold" turned out to be gold-plated copper.
Kingold -- whose name was probably stolen from Kinross Gold, one of the world's largest gold miners -- is the largest privately owned gold processor in central China's Hubei province. Its shares are listed on the Nasdaq stock exchange in New York (although its current market cap of just $10MM is a far cry from its all time highs hit when the company IPOed on the Nasdaq around 2010) . The company is led by Chairman Jia Zhihong, an intimidating ex-military man who is the controlling shareholder.
Well, apparently everything as at least some of 83 tons of gold bars used as loan collateral turned out to be nothing but gilded copper. That has left lenders holding the bag for the remaining 16 billion yuan of loans outstanding against the bogus bars. And as Caixin adds, the loans were covered by 30 billion yuan of property insurance policies issued by state insurer PICC Property and Casualty and various other smaller insurers, the report in Zero Hedge said.
The fake gold came to light in February when Dongguan Trust (one of those infamous Chinese shadow banks) set out to liquidate Kingold collateral to cover defaulted debts. As the report continues, in late 2019 Kingold failed to repay investors in several trust products. To its shock, Dongguan Trust said it discovered that the gleaming gold bars were actually gilded copper alloy.
The news sent shockwaves through Kingold's creditors. China Minsheng Trust - another shadow banking company and one of Kingold's largest creditors - obtained a court order to test collateral before Kingold's debts came due. On May 22, the test result returned saying the bars sealed in Minsheng Trust's coffers are also copper alloy.
And with authorities investigating how this happened, Kingold chief Jia flatly denies that anything is wrong with the collateral his company put up.
As Caxin notes, the Kingold counterfeiting case echoes China's largest gold-loan fraud case, unfolding since 2016 in the northwest Shaanxi province and neighbouring Hunan, where regulators found adulterated gold bars in 19 lenders' coffers backing 19 billion yuan of loans, or about $2.5 billion. In that case, a lender seeking to melt gold collateral found black tungsten plate in the middle of the bars.
In total, Kingold pledge tens of thousands of kilograms of gold to no less than 14 creditors amounting to just under 20 billion yuan, the Zero Hedge report said.

Fake Gold Bars used as collateral for billions of dollars of bank loans. More than 4% of Chinese sovereign gold asset is supposed to be fake. Didn't I tell you that Chinese economy is one big Ponzi scheme, which is now up for BURST........😁😁😂😂😝😝
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