China Could Field Its Sixth-Gen Fighter Jet Before The US – Top USAF Official Apprehends

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A top US Air Force official has expressed apprehension about whether the country will be able to develop the sixth-generation fighter jet before China fields it and uses it against America.

The defense community is closely watching the developments in the US sixth-generation fighter program called Next-Generation Air Dominance (NGAD). Developing the type could be of paramount importance for the US to maintain its tech superiority in the field with China rapidly catching up.

The USAF has already flown a full-scale demonstrator of its futuristic NGAD fighter jet last September. And it is already concerned over its rivals closing the gap.

Speaking to reporters on February 26, USAF Air Combat Command head Gen. Mark Kelly said, “I for one am confident that the technology and the test points have developed to where NGAD technology will get fielded. And I’m confident that the adversaries on the other end of this technology will suffer a very tough day and tough week and tough war.

“What I don’t know — and we’re working with our great partners — is if our nation will have the courage and the focus to field this capability before someone like the Chinese fields it and uses it against us.”

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What is NGAD?

The US Air Force is working on its ‘highly secret sixth-generation fighter jet under the Next-Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) program, which will be a step above the fifth-generation F-35s with futuristic technologies.

The prototype was even flown in September and is said to have “broken records”, The Eurasian Times reported earlier. No further details of the fighter are known at the moment. There is speculation that it will possess improved stealth capability and incredible speeds.

However, it could take more than a decade for the sixth-generation fighter jet to become a reality. There is a reason for the US to get worried given that China is also developing its sixth-generation aircraft. An ANI report quoted Wang Haifeng, chief designer at China’s Chengdu Aircraft Research and Design Bureau, as saying that it would be ready by 2035.


Kelly didn’t comment about the timeline and the stage at which the US’ NGAD program is currently in, and neither did he reveal the number of prototypes built so far. “It’s a keen focus, a keen capability,” Kelly said.

“We just need to make sure we keep our narrative up and articulate the biggest benefit we’ve had as a nation — to have leading-edge technology ensuring we have air superiority for the nation and the joint force.”

The US Air Force was the first air force in the world to have commissioned a fifth-generation fighter jet, the F-22 Raptor, nearly 15 years ago. The jet is even out of production now, with the focus being directed on the upgrade of the existing fleet and its replacement by the single-engine F-35 Lightning II. But the Pentagon is still worried about giving the go-ahead for F-35’s serial production.

In contrast, China has scaled up its production of the J-20 stealth fighter, which was inducted into the PLA Air Force in 2017, the same year the US began deploying its F-35s in Japan. It is believed the number J-20s produced so far will be 60-70.

There are also reports that Chengdu Aerospace Corporation (CAC) set up a fourth J-20 production line in 2019, each line able to produce one fighter per month. At this rate, the J-20 should approach the total production numbers of the American F-22 by 2027. This would amount to at least 200 fighters, making it the world’s second-most common stealth fighter behind the F-35, according to the ANI report.
 
2025+ is going to be interesting 'cause that's when we will start seeing the first of next gen aircraft. And this time, it may be as significant as the transition from prop planes to jet planes. So true next gen aircraft.

The Russians claim their next get jet will be space capable. With the small clue in the article claiming NGAD will be capable of "incredible speeds", it appears it will also be near-space or space capable. Naturally the Chinese will also be aiming for that. All three countries have the basic technologies needed to create such a propulsion system.
 
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it appears it will also be near-space or space capable. Naturally the Chinese will also be aiming for that. All three countries have the basic technologies needed to create such a propulsion system.
China remains unable to study and produce a pure chinese jet engine. So it will take them some more time.
 
China remains unable to study and produce a pure chinese jet engine. So it will take them some more time.
Doesn't matter as long as they get engine supply from Russians. Gripen doesn't have a Swedish engine,yet it is considered to be one of the best fighter jet.
 
Doesn't matter as long as they get engine supply from Russians. Gripen doesn't have a Swedish engine,yet it is considered to be one of the best fighter jet.
The initial question was about a sixth gen fighter. I have a big doubt about the China skill in jet engine for that, specially if it has to reach the near space.
 
The initial question was about a sixth gen fighter. I have a big doubt about the China skill in jet engine for that, specially if it has to reach the near space.
So going space is the criterian to call an aircraft gen6?I don't think so. So far non of these countries actually know how a gen6 aircraft will be.
 
So going space is the criterian to call an aircraft gen6?I don't think so. So far non of these countries actually know how a gen6 aircraft will be.
I think some of them (USA... and others) are working hard on it !
The near space is probably the next frontier.
 
We probably need a sticky thread for the 6th gen aircraft NGAD.

I wonder which company will lead NGAD its between Lockheed and Northrup. Boeing has no shot. Maybe the naval plane.
 
Yeah it's a bomber with likely bvr air to air capability. That's a big a** top intake and you can see the two HUDs reflecting light.

J-36 - Are the Chinese trying to change the very paradigm of aerial combat?


(1) The more I look at J-36, and even J-20, the more I'm convinced that these aircrafts have been made to address a new form of aerial combat which the Chinese think will given them advantage, and victory over the US.


(2) First, the aircrafts -
- Stealth
- Long Range
- Supersonic
- quite possibly super-cruise (if not now, then in future)
- powerful engines -> means more power
- Powerful, long range AESA radars
- Organic electronic warfare capability
- LARGE weapons bay for Long Range AAMs
- Highly networked and senor fusion


(3) Missiles - The Chinese are coming-up with new iterations of long range AAMs but powerful onboard seekers/radars and propulsion.


(4) Ground based AD assets - Long range surveillance radars (conventional and anti-stealth), and Long Range SAMs - Both with overlapping coverage.


(5) Ship based AD Assets - AEGIS style large destroyers with battle management capabilities, long range AESA radars, long range ship based SAMs and deep magazines.


(6) Satellite coverage - Powerful network of satellites for ELINT and Reconnaissance.


(7) AWACS - Long range, AWACS based coverage.


- In this matrix, think of a J-36 as a stealth, supersonic missile platform.
- It is able to see far, thanks to its own powerful AESA radar.
- But it also gets feed from the land and ship-based AESA, long range radars, which gives is a complete air picture, even outside of its radar envelope.
- The stealth helps it to go as close as possible to any aerial threat while the feed it is recieving from the ships or AWACS or land based sensors, allows it to run completely silent.
- The missiles are launched thanks to target feed from other sources.
- AND, two things can happen here -
(1) The Chinese fighter continues to be in the area, receive feed from other sources, and then transmit the same to the long range AAM.
(2) OR, and this is very scary OR, the missile takes the coordinates/feed directly from the other source (ship, land based radar, AWACS) through data-link or SATCOM, and it cooperatively directs the missile to a point where missiles own AESA seeker becomes active and homes onto the target.


- Think of 100s of those PLAN ships out there in the South China Sea, networked with J-36s, who become supersonic, stealth, aerial SAM pickets and the sea and aerial assets fuse into one common platform.


- The very concept of air to air combat changes with this!!!

Be afraid sweetie! Be very afraid!! Ja?
 
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Lol. Gunga din it is your nations air force that is severely lacking not ours. Always remember that the most advanced fighter in IAF is 0-3 in air combat, but definitely 0-1 and it was against an export J-10 flown by pakees. You will live with that shame for the rest of your many lives.
What did we tell you about coming online ( pun unintended ) on a Sabbath , you anti Semite ?

Be that as it may looks like the taunt went home . Nice ! The score isn't 0-3 or 0-1 , it's 0-300 in favour of Paxtan & yet they lost . How so , you ask ?

Time for a history lesson. Yes , it's that time of the year. Well it's like this sweetie , what were the fatalities for the Vietnamese in your war with them ? Some 1-2 million . What were American fatalities like ? ~ 59,000 . Who won ? Of course the US won .

Scenes of US victory in Vietnam 👇


Subsequently these scenes were repeated in Eye Raq , Afghanistan where you quit victoriously , of course , with your pants around the ankles & how can we forget the dear dear bedraggled bunch of camel phuckers - the Houthi militia who forced the USN to quit victoriously the Gulf of Aden after losing 2 SHs & was it 7 or 9 MQ-9B Reapers apart from the F-35 barely escaping by the skin of its teeth ?

You will live with this splendid record to your eternal pride ( no sweetie it's not what you think ) for the rest of your lives for shame & Amerimutts are mutually exclusive . However masochism & Amerimutts are mutually inclusive. They just love being spanked by all kinds of exotic people from across the world.

So what have we learnt ? We've learnt to leave bean counting to the *censored* & shlomos . Warriors fight to win , losers quit & the Amerimutts quit victoriously with their record intact since the Korean War in 1954. Ja ?
 
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What did we tell you about coming online ( pun unintended ) on a Sabbath , you anti Semite ?

Be that as it may looks like the taunt went home . Nice ! The score isn't 0-3 or 0-1 , it's 0-300 in favour of Paxtan & yet they lost . How so , you ask ?

Time for a history lesson. Yes , it's that time of the year. Well it's like this sweetie , what were the fatalities for the Vietnamese in your war with them ? Some 1-2 million . What were American fatalities like ? ~ 59,000 . Who won ? Of course the US won .

Scenes of US victory in Vietnam 👇


Subsequently these scenes were repeated in Eye Raq , Afghanistan where you quit victoriously , of course , with your pants around the ankles & how can we forget the dear dear bedraggled bunch of camel phuckers - the Houthi militia who forced the USN to quit victoriously the Gulf of Aden after losing 2 SHs & was it 7 or 9 MQ-9B Reapers apart from the F-35 barely escaping by the skin of its teeth ?

You will live with this splendid record to your eternal pride ( no sweetie it's not what you think ) for the rest of your lives for shame & Amerimutts are mutually exclusive . However masochism & Amerimutts are mutually inclusive. They just love being spanked by all kinds of exotic people from across the world.

So what have we learnt ? We've learnt to leave bean counting to the *censored* & shlomos . Warriors fight to win , losers quit & the Amerimutts quit victoriously with their record intact since the Korean War in 1954. Ja ?
Lulz. My post cut you deep I see.

0-3 :ROFLMAO:
 
Yeah it's a bomber with likely bvr air to air capability. That's a big a** top intake and you can see the two HUDs reflecting light.
As per the Chinese, J-36 is beyond the old terms like Bomber, ASF etc. It's going to be extension of Chinese A2/AD bubble against USN deep in SCS or the Pacific. It would work as a Command & Control node for other Chinese aerial assets using its massive radar and EO aperture. Those three engines are for huge electrical generation and not just supercruise. Plus thanks to its huge IWBs, it shall carry multiple Pl-17s internally.You definitely need to worry about this jet.

And what is this 0-3 childish mock? This brings your delusion levels close to a Pakistani. Even if we lost one Rafale and achieved our objectives then it's a job well done. Can you give me a guarantee that against China you won't lose any jets? If no then stop mocking.