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UK could build seven new nuclear power stations to wean country off Russian gas​


It is so strange.... The nuclear energy was nearly out some couple of years ahead, and now everybody want more nuclear powerplant...
The German move will be interesting : The closed their nuc to open gaz and coal powerplant... with far more CO² emissions... What will be the next move? nuclear again?
 
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It is so strange.... The nuclear energy was nearly out some couple of years ahead, and now everybody want more nuclear powerplant...
The German move will be interesting : The closed their nuc to open gaz and coal powerplant... with far more CO² emissions... What will be the next move? nuclear again?
The move against nuclear was a stupid one. All were in favour of nuclear until Chernobyl, which we now know was down to idiots operating idiotically designed reactors, idiotically designed reactors that had already nearly had a meltdown in Leningrad (St. Petersburg now). It never could have happened with western-designed reactors or safety standard. And then Fukushima, which is what happens when you build nuclear plants near fault lines, completely unapplicable to the UK or Europe, and many new reactor designs are fail safe anyway.
 
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(…) They closed their nuc to open gaz and coal powerplant... with far more CO² emissions... What will be the next move? nuclear again?
answer:
Germany signs agreement to build its first LNG terminal
(afp, mar.06)

Germany has reached an agreement to build its first major liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal at the mouth of the Elbe River to reduce its dependence on Russian gas, the Economy and Climate Ministry said on Saturday.

The German government via state-owned bank KfW, Dutch state-owned operator Gasunie and German energy group RWE "have signed a memorandum of understanding for the co-construction of a liquefied natural gas (LNG) import terminal at the Brunsbüttel site" in the north of the country, the ministry said in a statement.

An LNG terminal allows the regasification of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported by sea.

The future infrastructure, 50% financed by KfW and operated by Gasunie, will have an annual regasification capacity of 8 billion cubic metres in order to supply the German market directly with natural gas.


While this type of project can take years to complete, the project partners are working towards implementation "as soon as possible", according to the press release.


"It is necessary to reduce dependence on Russian gas imports as quickly as possible," commented Economy Minister Robert Habeck.

"Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine makes this mandatory," he added, while the country imports 55% of its gas from Russia via overland pipelines.


The green minister had to do violence to himself recently when he said there was "no taboo" to "free ourselves" from Russian gas, even suggesting a postponement of the exit from nuclear and coal. [:LOL:]

The future LNG terminal will be equipped from the outset to switch as soon as possible "to green hydrogen or hydrogen derivatives", so as to help Europe's largest economy to converge towards climate neutrality, according to Mr Habeck.

L'Allemagne signe un accord pour construire son premier terminal méthanier

50cts question: who will export this gas to europeGermany?
 
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Germany signs agreement to build its first LNG terminal
(afp, mar.06)

Germany has reached an agreement to build its first major liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal at the mouth of the Elbe River to reduce its dependence on Russian gas, the Economy and Climate Ministry said on Saturday.

The German government via state-owned bank KfW, Dutch state-owned operator Gasunie and German energy group RWE "have signed a memorandum of understanding for the co-construction of a liquefied natural gas (LNG) import terminal at the Brunsbüttel site" in the north of the country, the ministry said in a statement.

An LNG terminal allows the regasification of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported by sea.

The future infrastructure, 50% financed by KfW and operated by Gasunie, will have an annual regasification capacity of 8 billion cubic metres in order to supply the German market directly with natural gas.


While this type of project can take years to complete, the project partners are working towards implementation "as soon as possible", according to the press release.


"It is necessary to reduce dependence on Russian gas imports as quickly as possible," commented Economy Minister Robert Habeck.

"Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine makes this mandatory," he added, while the country imports 55% of its gas from Russia via overland pipelines.



The green minister had to do violence to himself recently when he said there was "no taboo" to "free ourselves" from Russian gas, even suggesting a postponement of the exit from nuclear and coal. [:LOL:]

The future LNG terminal will be equipped from the outset to switch as soon as possible "to green hydrogen or hydrogen derivatives", so as to help Europe's largest economy to converge towards climate neutrality, according to Mr Habeck.
L'Allemagne signe un accord pour construire son premier terminal méthanier

50cts question: who will export this gas to europeGermany?
Well you have the US plus the UK and Norway more locally. There's Australia and Canada as friendlies too.



Apparently our 8 (now) nuclear powerstations will be based on small modular reactors to keep down costs. Possibly using Rolls-Royce's design I imagine. I think they're a fail safe design, so they literally can't meltdown even if all power fails etc. and everything that can go wrong does.



 
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Britain about to sign trade deals with USA​

TRADE minister Penny Mordaunt has revealed that the UK is poised to sign a series of eight trade deals that will give the UK businesses access to 20% of the US economy.

In a wide-ranging interview with GB News today, she also said that the UK will be a key player in re-building Ukraine, where damage caused by the war has so far estimated to be £60 billion.

On trade deals, Ms Mordaunt also said the UK is about to sign eight initial agreements with the USA which represent 20% of the US economy.
She said: “In the US we are talking to 20 states currently, that’s going to be a growing number.

“The first eight deals we’re going to sign represent about 20% of the US economy.

“This is big stuff – it will reduce costs for business, it will open up new opportunities for UK businesses and make it easier for them to actually provide services and goods to the US.

“We’re also creating some very interesting partnerships, pairing up particular states or large cities with parts of the UK which again will forge some really interesting partnerships and opportunities.”

She made her comments during an interview on Alastair Stewart & Friends on GB News.

Ms Mordaunt also revealed that, as a senior Royal Navy reservist, she was involved in training Ukrainian military personnel.

“As a nation, we have been training Ukrainian armed forces for years,” she said. “I was involved in that operation in 2015, actually, as minister for the armed forces, and we have been working alongside them, teaching them how to defuse bombs, medical skills, but also how to use the types of equipment that they’re they’re using at the moment.
“But what people don’t know is that in addition to that, we’ve also been training up their civil servants as well.

“A lot of the Civil Defence that you’ll see after terrible bombing people going in helping save lives, put the water supplies back up, all of those things, and all of the civil service support that’s needed for that we have been helping train them do that as well.”
She said that Russian president Vladimir Putin must fail and cannot hold on to any territory gained through military aggression.
“The bottom line is Putin has to fail. Putin cannot hold on to any square inch of territory that he has gone into and he cannot consolidate territory that was in dispute before this particular war started.

“He has to fail. Nato and our partners have to ensure that happens, the red lines that Nato has put in place and not just put in place but said that they’ve put in place, I think, are to send some very clear messages back to Moscow.
“I don’t think they would have done that you don’t remove the prospect of armed forces. You don’t take that off the table unless there’s a very good reason for doing so.


“I know this looks a bit peculiar and people get very frustrated because they want us to go and sort these Russians out. They want Putin to fail, but this has been done in a very cautious and phased way for very good reasons.”

“We estimate right now there’s about £60 billion worth of damage done to cities across Ukraine.
“We want to ensure that they can be rebuilt as soon as possible. We will be a key player in doing that.

“And I think we’ll be a convener for other nations contributing to that as well. Russia should be footing the bill for some of this in my opinion and we’ll be looking at ways to do that.

“In the meantime, we need to ensure that we can keep, in parts of Ukraine that aren’t in the direct line of fire. we can keep businesses and people going as normal.”

Asked during the interview about the Government’s new immigration policy, which could see some illegal migrants being sent to Rwanda, she said it is already having a deterrent effect.

“We will soon see if it’s starting to work. There is some indication already that it may be having a deterrent effect,” she said.
“That’s what is going to matter about this set of policies when you announce something that’s really quite groundbreaking.

“You are going to get a lot of criticism and a lot of scepticism, but we will see if this is going to start to work.
“And no doubt the people traffickers will start to adapt their business model to try and circumvent this and we will adapt as well, but not xenophobia, reasonable criticism of what the policy may or may not achieve.”

Asked about reports about allegations of sexual conduct that have been levelled at five Government ministers, she said: “These particular allegations are extremely serious and shocking, but there is we’ve seen elsewhere in the press today, there is misogyny out there as there is in every walk of life and I’m glad to see that people are calling that out, including the prime minister today.” Partnerships, pairing up particular states or large cities with parts of the UK which again will forge some really interesting partnerships and opportunities.”

She made her comments during an interview on Alastair Stewart & Friends on GB News.

“I don’t think they would have done that you don’t remove the prospect of armed forces. You don’t take that off the table unless there’s a very good reason for doing so.

“I know this looks a bit peculiar and people get very frustrated because they want us to go and sort these Russians out. They want Putin to fail, but this has been done in a very cautious and phased way for very good reasons.”

Ms Mordaunt also told Alastair Stewart that the UK will play a key role in rebuilding Ukraine after the war.

“We estimate right now there’s about £60 billion worth of damage done to cities across Ukraine.
“We want to ensure that they can be rebuilt as soon as possible. We will be a key player in doing that.

“And I think we’ll be a convener for other nations contributing to that as well. Russia should be footing the bill for some of this in my opinion and we’ll be looking at ways to do that.

“In the meantime, we need to ensure that we can keep, in parts of Ukraine that aren’t in the direct line of fire. we can keep businesses and people going as normal.”

Asked during the interview about the Government’s new immigration policy, which could see some illegal migrants being sent to Rwanda, she said it is already having a deterrent effect.

“We will soon see if it’s starting to work. There is some indication already that it may be having a deterrent effect,” she said.

“That’s what is going to matter about this set of policies when you announce something that’s really quite groundbreaking.

“You are going to get a lot of criticism and a lot of scepticism, but we will see if this is going to start to work.

“And no doubt the people traffickers will start to adapt their business model to try and circumvent this and we will adapt as well, but not xenophobia, reasonable criticism of what the policy may or may not achieve.”

Asked about reports about allegations of sexual conduct that have been levelled at five Government ministers, she said: “These particular allegations are extremely serious and shocking, but there is we’ve seen elsewhere in the press today, there is misogyny out there as there is in every walk of life and I’m glad to see that people are calling that out, including the prime minister today.”
 
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And then Fukushima, which is what happens when you build nuclear plants near fault lines, completely unapplicable to the UK or Europe, and many new reactor designs are fail safe anyway.

Still, it was fairly well contained.

Nobody died due to the radiation in Fukuishima, and the only ones that got sick were those that went in.
 
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I heard that the independents won the elections in Northern Ireland. :p

It's really interesting turn of events. The original Ulster province had 9 counties. British partitioned Ulster in such a way that sinn fein couldn't get majority. They abandoned 3 republican majority counties to make sure that Northern Ireland will have unionist majority.


Map of original Ulster region
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Now even in this situation, sinn fein become the largest party in norther Ireland. Two nationalist parties togather have more seats than the unionist parties combined together.
 

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Ya have to be dumb, brainwashed, or special to think Brexit was a good idea/turned out well.

The economic damage along is like 4 times the membership cost weekly lol.
 

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Ya have to be dumb, brainwashed, or special to think Brexit was a good idea/turned out well.

The economic damage along is like 4 times the membership cost weekly lol.
The economic damage isn't but the strategic damage is regrettable. The Northern Ireland issue is a silly one and indicative of the EU's lack of pragmatism. There is only 200m Euros worth of goods going from NI to RoI (Republic of Ireland), the EU is worried that a small portion of that might be from Britain, so it demanded a customs border between Britain and NI, which affects 1.5bn worth of goods going from Britain to NI in the UK internal market. Rather than just saying, it's only a few million and we have 31bn Euros worth of illegal narcotics smuggled into the EU, plus tens of millions of people every year, so this is not really an issue. The EU Parliament are unbearable silly people.
 

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Interestingly BMD is all three.
Says the guy who licks Putin's ball sack.

The cost of membership is not just the annual payment, that's the mistake many make. And I think the Ukraine issue has demonstrated that EU thinking as regards foreign policy has been far from joined up. Micromanagement and bureaucracy at the expense of the big picture and political direction is the EU in a nutshell.
 

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Says the guy who licks Putin's ball sack.

You have quite the imagination.

The cost of membership is not just the annual payment, that's the mistake many make. And I think the Ukraine issue has demonstrated that EU thinking as regards foreign policy has been far from joined up. Micromanagement and bureaucracy at the expense of the big picture and political direction is the EU in a nutshell.

Great. But what do you think about an independence referendum in NI? And if they do become independent, would Brexit be worth it?
 

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You have quite the imagination.



Great. But what do you think about an independence referendum in NI? And if they do become independent, would Brexit be worth it?
It's not something I care to imagine.

Depends how you look at it, we'd save another £10bn per year if they left, and if trade between Britain and NI is facing customs anyway, there's not really going to be any difference if they leave. So we have nothing to lose by ditching the NI protocol and leave it to the EU to determine whether they want a customers border inside Ireland in breach of the Good Friday Agreement.

Also very strange how you have much to say about Brexit, but very little to say about Putin essentially ending all trade with the EU. :ROFLMAO:
 
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It's not something I care to imagine.

Depends how you look at it, we'd save another £10bn per year if they left, and if trade between Britain and NI is facing customs anyway, there's not really going to be any difference if they leave. So we have nothing to lose by ditching the NI protocol and leave it to the EU to determine whether they want a customers border inside Ireland in breach of the Good Friday Agreement.

Also very strange how you have much to say about Brexit, but very little to say about Putin essentially ending all trade with the EU. :ROFLMAO:

But it's your special imagination that gave birth to the insult.

Let's see. UK's annual expenses is £1.3T, and paying £10B out of that gave you significant control over 500 milion people. But you abandoned that level of power because you wanted to save 10B. If an independence referendum is held, both GFA and the NI Protocol will both die. You seem to have not realised that the GFA and NIP stand in antithesis to each other. Which is why Sinn Fein is all for drawing a border between GB and NI.

It's gonna be funny if the UK breaks up because some people wanted to save £10B a year.

Putin was provoked, it's not in his hands. But Brexit was self-inflicted.
 

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But it's your special imagination that gave birth to the insult.

Let's see. UK's annual expenses is £1.3T, and paying £10B out of that gave you significant control over 500 milion people. But you abandoned that level of power because you wanted to save 10B. If an independence referendum is held, both GFA and the NI Protocol will both die. You seem to have not realised that the GFA and NIP stand in antithesis to each other. Which is why Sinn Fein is all for drawing a border between GB and NI.

It's gonna be funny if the UK breaks up because some people wanted to save £10B a year.

Putin was provoked, it's not in his hands. But Brexit was self-inflicted.
No, it was your behaviour.

The NI Protocol is a breach of the GFA, which is why it needs to go. It wasn't just £11bn, that was the direct cost. The total direct cost was £18bn and not all of £7bn of that really comes back.

Putin was not provoked, Putin is simply a cuunt who thinks it's still the 19th century. He invaded a country simply because it left his orbit.