Brahmos and Nirbhay Cruise Missiles : News, Updates and Discussions

randomradio

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Because they will now export to other countries of a tech we already possessed. And not only that it will most likely be superior to ours..Tech like Brahmos give us huge political leverage like the Chinese did with their ballistic missile and cruise missile tech exporting.
We should atleast export a down graded version of the agni 1 or prahaar missile in SEA..

So you're saying the Russians will allow Korea to export it?
 

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If the missile doesn't contain Russian hardware, the Russians will have no say. The KM-SAM Cheongung, developed similarly with Russian tech transfer, was exported to the UAE.

It depends on the type of contract they signed and the type of system. They are unlikely to allow export for something they already have an agreement with another country for the same. The KM-SAM is mostly Korean, in this case the Russians won't really have a problem with allowing the export of their share of the missile itself.
 
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If Korea's military procurement history is anything to go by, so is the supersonic missile.

It's not the same situation though, it's about the leverage you have over the technologies. Korea has the capability to replace the motor on the SAM, but the question is whether they have the same for the ramjet. Airframes are not protected by IPR laws, which is why you can see so many look-alike copies everywhere, including the Chinese Flanker. Then there's obviously the agreement itself, like we can't export the Brahmos-2, as long as the motor comes from Russia, even if the rest is Indian. So the real question is if the Russians will allow the export of the missile with a Russian motor. Of course, the game's different if even the motor is replaced with a Korean one, then it would be a Korean missileand they would have a geniune competitor to the Brahmos.

Let's not forget that Russia has a stake in BAL, which allows profit sharing, plus access to countries they themselves do not have, but if the Korean missile is just a licensed engine, then they won't get export clearance due to the obvious reason that the Russians won't be able to earn profits on their own tech.
 

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From 2011:

The Republic of Korea is developing a supersonic cruise missile to defend the country against threats from the navies of neighbouring countries.

The government source said, “Think tanks like the Agency for Defense Development have been developing a supersonic anti-ship cruise missile for some years now.”

“They’re expected to complete development in three to four years at the earliest,” The Chosunilbo quotes the source as saying.

Based on Russia’s Yakhont missile, the missile will have a range of 250km-300km and can achieve speeds of up to Mach 2.5.

The cruise missile can be used to attack aircraft carriers, Aegis ships and other modern submarines.
 

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Korea has the capability to replace the motor on the SAM, but the question is whether they have the same for the ramjet.
Yes, that is ambiguous as of now.

Also, the Koreans apparently have a separate air-launched 400mm supersonic anti-ship missile in development for the KF-21.
 

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Because they will now export to other countries of a tech we already possessed. And not only that it will most likely be superior to ours..Tech like Brahmos give us huge political leverage like the Chinese did with their ballistic missile and cruise missile tech exporting.
We should atleast export a down graded version of the agni 1 or prahaar missile in SEA..
We are not a rogue nation like north korea to export Agni BM to foreign countries,by mocking MTCR.
Prahar can be exported since it is a sub 300km missile, Pragathi name first coined for the export variant of prahar missile, don't know what happened to that project.
 
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However, detailed specifications of the new cruise missile of the Agency for Defense Development (ADD) and local missile manufacturer LIG Nex1 are still unclear. Experts speculate that it might be a bit smaller than Yakhont, with 6.6 meters long, 53 centimeters of diameter, 1.5 tons of weight, and 250 kg of warhead payloads, based on precise guidance equipment and stealth technology to avoid detection by enemy radars. Currently, forward-deployed anti-ship and cruise missiles mostly glide in the subsonic speed of Mach 0.5-0.7. Close-in weapon systems (CIWS) and anti-air defense systems are thus optimized for subsonic interception.

 

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From 2011:

The Republic of Korea is developing a supersonic cruise missile to defend the country against threats from the navies of neighbouring countries.

The government source said, “Think tanks like the Agency for Defense Development have been developing a supersonic anti-ship cruise missile for some years now.”

“They’re expected to complete development in three to four years at the earliest,” The Chosunilbo quotes the source as saying.

Based on Russia’s Yakhont missile, the missile will have a range of 250km-300km and can achieve speeds of up to Mach 2.5.

The cruise missile can be used to attack aircraft carriers, Aegis ships and other modern submarines.
So.....Brahmos is a Korean copy? 🤪
 

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Good news. I think, India should also offer Sri Lanka and Thailand, Brahmos. Not just that, India should also deploy it in Fiji. Another thing should be to prioritize UCAV launched version.
Why Sri Lanka Thailand or Fiji , champ ? What exactly is the nature of threats they're facing which Maldives Bangladesh Mauritius Somalia Kenya Tanzania Seychelles or Ethiopia isn't facing ? Why not the latter bunch of countries too ?
 
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