Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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Hypersonic missile, does it have the accuracy of Brahmos as on today? I don't think so. Comes to STAR, i think its target practice missile, not sure it can be used as offensive platform or not.

My bet is Rudram 2 &3. But again, here we have to deal with a NATO system. Probably DRDO will come with a tailor made solution for this threat, may be like ADM 160 or better.
Pralay which travels in hypersonic (but lower compared to LRAShM) speeds and in non traditional trajectory can achieve below 10 m CEP. Maybe LRAShM can achieve 50 m CEP.
 
The both can be the trump card against any advanced Pakistan SAMs.
My dear, if US thinks Pakistan is at risk from F35s suddenly whole fleet will be grounded the next hour. It's useless against Pakistan. It's very useful against China however. US won't do anything if China confronts us again and we will use F35s. This needs some thinking and debate before we accept/reject the offer.
LRAShM is extremely manuverable owing to if shape and fins. It is meant to hit moving boats on high sea. It has to be extremely maneuverable.
Imo its probably even more maneuverable than DF17.
 
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The both can be the trump card against any advanced Pakistan SAMs.
Won't work. We need to take out the erieyes before we can start an effective SEAD/DEAD campaign against the Pakistanis. The spectra and f-35's stealth become irrelevant against AEWCS especially GaN radar based ones. We need to get hands on the netra mk1a's on priority basis.
 
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Won't work. We need to take out the erieyes before we can start an effective SEAD/DEAD campaign against the Pakistanis. The spectra and f-35's stealth become irrelevant against AEWCS especially GaN radar based ones. We need to get hands on the netra mk1a's on priority basis.
F35 level stealth doesn't become irrelevant, highly doubt Porks will ever have the integrated sensors and radar systems needed to detect a VLO, to the extent to get a firing solution on it. Even we don't have yet. But nonetheless idt US would allow us to use F35 against Pakistan especially with the Trump family crypto deal with them. They would however be ok if we bullied the Chinese with it.
 
Most of us want that only so that incomplete agenda of operation Sindoor can be bought to its logical conclusion.
Preserving weapon/military resource and surrender are two proven tactics of Pakistan since long time. Water or no water they will not back for another 5 to 7 years. They will wait in the fence for BJP govt to fold in India.
 
F35 level stealth doesn't become irrelevant, highly doubt Porks will ever have the integrated sensors and radar systems needed to detect a VLO, to the extent to get a firing solution on it. Even we don't have yet. But nonetheless idt US would allow us to use F35 against Pakistan especially with the Trump family crypto deal with them. They would however be ok if we bullied the Chinese with it.
Trump has gone rogue but is largely irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things. The Pentagon, the deep state and the DoD have different loyalties and agendas.
 
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This to me looks like Prahar.
Have a look, and give your thoughts?
None of Pakistani missiles match this thing found in Sirsa Haryana.

**Edit : It's S125 Neva. Surface to air missile.
Surprised India still using these relics.

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This was recognised as a part of modernised pechora SAMs the day these pictures came out.:ROFLMAO:
Probably fired to intercept whatever was being launched towards delhi. That projectile towards Delhi was probably the reason for those expansive stand-off airstrikes on Military bases all across Pakistan.

But @safriz , you still havent replied to this post of mine, why???? The fact that you keep ignoring this pointed question just confirms to me that Pakistanis are indeed too embarrassed to have a conversation about how Pakistani Military lies to its public a little too blatantly.
See...........what a disingenuous answer, I knew you would avoid this question because its uncomfortable. I specifically asked you a pointed question about Pakistani military lying to pakistani public and disregarding the media. Media personalities on both sides of the border are private individuals, they can lie but that doesn't really matter because they are not the State. But when Govt spokesperson(or DGISPR here) start openly spewing lies, that matters, a lot. They are the State. They cannot lie to the public, that too so blatantly. Nobody cares about credibility of private media but everybody cares about the credibility of the State. When your govt machinery starts to openly lie, you know something is deeply rotten.

thats the reason I didnt ask you about that female rafale pilot being captured[:ROFLMAO:] that pakistani media was boasting about, cause they are private individuals at the end of the day. They dont matter as much as the State machinery.

Pakistanis avoid answering these type of questions because they know(even if they dont like to admit it openly) that their leaders lie to them. Ofcourse thats how you maintain the facade of power in such a military ruled country. Thats how you get 1971, 1999 type of incidents.

I know you still wont adress this issue head on becuse its uncomfortable. All Pakistanis avoid this. Just post this on twitter to pakistanis & you will see all sorts of mental gymnastics but they will still avoid this question.

So again I will post this.







@safriz How do you explain this???

Pretty sure he wont respond ;)

Like all Pakistanis he will not confront this question. Too embarrassed about the slavery of their population to their military. Their gernails will lie to their face but pakistanis wont make a noise.
 
Preserving weapon/military resource and surrender are two proven tactics of Pakistan since long time. Water or no water they will not back for another 5 to 7 years. They will wait in the fence for BJP govt to fold in India.

But that does not seem to be happening. More you punish them, more time will you have for peace. Had we punished them for couple of More days, we would have 5 more years of peace.
 
There are clowns on both sides.
I equally laughed at both.
However nobody was more entertaining than our guy , the Uber chief clown Arnaab Gowswamy 🤣🤣.

Other than that, I liked the Brahmos strike on Shahbaz base. Whoever planned and executed that , knew his weapon very well
It's good to have a worthy opponent.
Not all, but that brahmos commander got an imaginary virtual salute from me

Man...11 of ur bases are pounded so you should worry about ur AD system instead of Arnab Goswamy
 
Another BS from you, half of the images contain strike by a non brahmos missile, such as rampage, SAAW, Hammer, crystal maze,
Total brahmos didn't even exceeded 15, oynx has one of the lowest interception rate in Ukraine too,
Now come to May 7, when the strikes happened in terrorist bases all over of Pakistan, they had Intel, they had awacs on air, hq we're active, still those missiles struck the terrorist bases, why haven't the chinese air defence able to intercept it?.... it was not even a saturation attack, you say AD are thin, are AD that thin in pakistan that they can't protect it's nuclear weapons facility from getting Hit, or Thier GHQ getting hit in broad daylight, the attacks we're not a saturation attacks, Haroop still being operated in limited numbers, and scalp & brahmos are fired by limited aircrafts, and rampage and crystal maze are integrated to only mig 29 and jaguars,
Increasing AD without integrated command Link won't do shit,
And it's gonna do nothing in future when you air bases are in range of guided pinaka, another coping mechanism of simply stating missile like even missile like brahmos when at the same time Chinese Air to surface missiles getting intercepted left & right, and running away from the failures of Chinese AD, and they still haven't fixed some of the runways yet, Tell them to do ASAP, The operation ain't over yet
Well, what can I say? People always have to come up with some reasons to declare their victory, don't they? Why don't you go and take a look at the battlefield in Ukraine? Has Russia defended against every attack from Ukraine? The number of Russia's advanced anti-aircraft missiles is 30 times that of Pakistan, but he still has too many problems.
 
Well, what can I say? People always have to come up with some reasons to declare their victory, don't they? Why don't you go and take a look at the battlefield in Ukraine? Has Russia defended against every attack from Ukraine? The number of Russia's advanced anti-aircraft missiles is 30 times that of Pakistan, but he still has too many problems.
The point isn't that the ADs weren't able to defend all Brahmos or Rampages, The point is that even the strategically important air bases and a Nuclear site were not defended showcasing the failure of the ADs. You can pin it to whatever reason you want but the fact remains that the Pakistanis weren't able to defend their strategic bases and had to change their HQ after the strike for whatever reason you want to believe.

The original comment didn't mention anything about an Indian victory, it only talked about the failure of Pakistani ADs, you are the one who is bringing "victory or defeat" here which doesn't even make any sense because neither side lost any territory.
 
Please answer - what did pak gain by sponsoring phalagam attack? Please be honest. Please do not say pak did not sponsor it.
Around 2 weeks before Pahalgam I had posted in a comment on Linkedin, that the popularity of Gen Munir was at an all time low, so either he would have to escalate in Kashmir, or the X corps commander (commanding forces along the LOC and a contender for CoAS) would do it for him.
Kashmir was in danger of being completely beyond Pak's ability to influence, let alone take over. The Pak army tradition since 1965 was to double down on a bad bet, which they did again.
 
The point isn't that the ADs weren't able to defend all Brahmos or Rampages, The point is that even the strategically important air bases and a Nuclear site were not defended showcasing the failure of the ADs. You can pin it to whatever reason you want but the fact remains that the Pakistanis weren't able to defend their strategic bases and had to change their HQ after the strike for whatever reason you want to believe.

The original comment didn't mention anything about an Indian victory, it only talked about the failure of Pakistani ADs, you are the one who is bringing "victory or defeat" here which doesn't even make any sense because neither side lost any territory.
According to LX it was a battle between india and China and China won convincingly and blasted india with $1 laser and some chowmin noodles.
 
The point isn't that the ADs weren't able to defend all Brahmos or Rampages, The point is that even the strategically important air bases and a Nuclear site were not defended showcasing the failure of the ADs. You can pin it to whatever reason you want but the fact remains that the Pakistanis weren't able to defend their strategic bases and had to change their HQ after the strike for whatever reason you want to believe.

The original comment didn't mention anything about an Indian victory, it only talked about the failure of Pakistani ADs, you are the one who is bringing "victory or defeat" here which doesn't even make any sense because neither side lost any territory.
Russia has deployed a large number of S400 and SA-20 M2/M3 systems at its airports and ports in Crimea. These weapons are very advanced, but Ukraine still destroyed half of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet using ATACMS and Storm Shadow missiles, and attacked the airport, destroying a large number of aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles.

The same is true for Pakistan. Relying solely on 2-3 sets of HQ9 is not sufficient to provide comprehensive air defense coverage for the entire country. Pakistan needs to improve its capabilities. Firstly, it needs to enhance the collaborative combat capabilities of CEC. Secondly, it needs to increase the density of its air defense systems. Thirdly, it should utilize its air force advantages to conduct offensive air defense.
According to LX it was a battle between india and China and China won convincingly and blasted india with $1 laser and some chowmin noodles.
If a war were to break out between China and India, the losses for India would not be just five aircraft.
 
Russia has deployed a large number of S400 and SA-20 M2/M3 systems at its airports and ports in Crimea. These weapons are very advanced, but Ukraine still destroyed half of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet using ATACMS and Storm Shadow missiles, and attacked the airport, destroying a large number of aircraft and anti-aircraft missiles.

The same is true for Pakistan. Relying solely on 2-3 sets of HQ9 is not sufficient to provide comprehensive air defense coverage for the entire country. Pakistan needs to improve its capabilities. Firstly, it needs to enhance the collaborative combat capabilities of CEC. Secondly, it needs to increase the density of its air defense systems. Thirdly, it should utilize its air force advantages to conduct offensive air defense.

If a war were to break out between China and India, the losses for India would not be just five aircraft.
I said you can believe whatever you want, it won't change the fact that the Pakistani ADs failed to protect strategically important locations which are the priority for any AD and the Pakistanis had to change their HQ for whatever reason.
 
I said you can believe whatever you want, it won't change the fact that the Pakistani ADs failed to protect strategically important locations which are the priority for any AD and the Pakistanis had to change their HQ for whatever reason.
Well, who knows? The Pakistani air defense missile units are different from the air force. They have never conducted joint military exercises with us, and we have no idea about their capabilities either.
 
Man...11 of ur bases are pounded so you should worry about ur AD system instead of Arnab Goswamy
Pounded or not.
This situation is baked into Pakistani war strategy.
We are a tiny stripe on the west of a very wide country.
The enemy can reach any part of Pakistan in short time, due to Pakistan being a narrow country.
But not that easy for Pakistan to reach east or even mid of India.
That's a fact, and baked into war strategy.
So no surprise here.
 
Well, who knows? The Pakistani air defense missile units are different from the air force. They have never conducted joint military exercises with us, and we have no idea about their capabilities either.
As I said you can believe whatever you want as the reason for the failure of the air defenses, you can only theorize the reasons for now.
 
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