I mean not much information was revealed about the Israeli operation, so we can't be certain. Most of the stuff that I saw were speculations.
Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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There are a lot of analysis about these photos on Twitter, you can look for them
These are a few photos I saved
F35 can definitely clear j20. Regarding 6th gen Chinese aircraft, i think none is available in market to tackle that. So let's prcure the best solution target j20. Sixth gen solution will come later stage.
I would say rather than waiting for stealth fighters we should be building Anti-stealth Air defense systems. Even if we go for a F 35 let's say, we won't be getting them until around the 2030s
The only photo in which India claims to have destroyed China's air defense system, many people have refuted this
My point is that, I showed you a video of what seems to be the Fateh missile but we can't be certain about a missile with videos of it getting intercepted. So, even if I have a video of a missile getting intercepted I can't prove it's origin without the release of it's wreckages which is within the hands of the forces
I don't know. rockets like the Fateh-1 are easier to intercept, just like the HIMARS M31 rocket, which even the SA15 missile has a record of intercepting
India will show the interception recorded on our radar to the potential client, where defense people will be involved from both sides. Proofs are not for the paid bot, they will say radar images are MS Paint.
There is no doubt India shows the world all Chinese missiles and Pakistani missiles are intercepted, and this is what the Chinese are finding very difficult since their defense market took a hit. No country that is paying the real money will buy Chinese products from now onwards.
Talking about Turkish drones, Bayraktar was shivering in the hangar, not able to come out from the hangar due to fear of our SAM system.
An unproven platform, yes, the IAF will not go for it without it being proven. So minimum 2030 for a Su-57 decision, whether they wanna buy it outright (3+ years from contract), MKIze it (7+ years), or go for FGFA (13-15 years).
We don't. Our procurement plan prepares us to deal with the J-20.
Within AMCA's timeline the main threat will be 6th gen. So we are not playing this generation game within this modernization cycle.
Continuing from the previous point, we are gonna jump straight to whatever will be considered advanced in 2060.
SCAF will be operational only by 2050, 10 years after AMCA.
It's not about generic stealth, it's about avionics and networking.
As I've pointed out in the GCAP thread, we are moving well beyond the limitations of a single platform.
We know that Israel did not penetrate Iran's airspace.
My point is that I can't tell what missile it is just from a video of it getting intercepted, I need the wreckage so, it can be anything, I can't guarantee you that it was surely a Fateh 1 or 2 missile or maybe a different missile altogether because there is no conclusive evidence about the missile.
Even if PAF had the j-20 they wouldn't be able to do anything to us. The PAF fell into the trap of investing entirely on its air force in aerial combat. They had standoff capability too but there's nothing in either the Chinese or Pakistani inventory that's really a problem. The Chinese do have some cruise missiles like the cj-100(supersonic in all flight profiles around mach 5) and yj-18(goes mach 3 in terminal) that could pose us some issues. There are hypersonics too like DF-ZF. But the rest wouldn't be much of a problem for our AD. The real issue would be Chinese swarm drones that will overwhelm our AD.
I actually doubt the F-35 will beat the J-20.
Even the Israelis did a SEAD/DEAD destroying Iranian s-300s and multiple air defence radars.
The issue with the j-20 is that it has the superior missile compared to the f-35. If the non-export version of pl-15 is capable as it is claimed by the Chinese with 200-300km range (avg 250km) it will pose major threat to the f-35. Plus with the advantage of higher altitude and higher speed, it will decide the engagement rules. The f-35 will be in a defensive position.
Do you believe Pakistan will take pictures of their destroyed SAMs and post it on the Internet?
PL-15, HQ-9, and HQ-16 failed against India. They have to create all new systems for exports now.
Iran's stuff is less advanced than what PAF operated. Iran doesn't even have an air force.
And somehow the houthis are employing that same iranian hardware to such an extent that they are threatening f-16's and f-35's of the USAF. Have to start taking the Iranians,NoKo's or Chinese hardware seriously.
Now, that everything has cooled down. Hopefully, people will realize that economy is everything. Everything else is just distraction. Anything that distracts you from growing your economy should be vehemently avoided.
Secondly, there are no magic bullets in conflict. All the cheaper indian made stuff proved itself with flying colours, all the glittery/shiny stuff that was imported didn't really turn the tide of this skirmish. Hopefully, MRFA is dead now. His observations are accurate
India is one of the handful countries that makes its own BVR missiles + fighter a/c with AESA radar + AWACS. The entire kill chain is ours. No imported aircraft will be able to fully utilize the capabilities of this environment. So, no point in importing stuff. Its time to be completely invested in domestic innovation instead of importing uber-expensive non-stealth a/c.
I hope Rafale fanboys here understand that its just another 4th gen non-stealth a/c. Just as easy to shoot down as an F-16.
Secondly, there are no magic bullets in conflict. All the cheaper indian made stuff proved itself with flying colours, all the glittery/shiny stuff that was imported didn't really turn the tide of this skirmish. Hopefully, MRFA is dead now. His observations are accurate
India is one of the handful countries that makes its own BVR missiles + fighter a/c with AESA radar + AWACS. The entire kill chain is ours. No imported aircraft will be able to fully utilize the capabilities of this environment. So, no point in importing stuff. Its time to be completely invested in domestic innovation instead of importing uber-expensive non-stealth a/c.
I hope Rafale fanboys here understand that its just another 4th gen non-stealth a/c. Just as easy to shoot down as an F-16.