I think it's still the M 2000. After all, the features of the M53 engine are too obvious
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It's clear we will be forced into a war. Unless Pakistan switches this into a PR victory.
I would have thought it was unlikely they'd target an aircraft flying on our side of the border. But the evidence suggests otherwise.maybe a loose AMRAAM
In another thread I was talking about 150 losses throughout the war. We won't stop for small losses.
Pakistan will decide how they want to escalate.
With what face and how the GOI will announce that IAF lost 5 or whatever number of jets specially when entire media was chest thumping about stand off capabilities of SCALP and Brahmos? So they are not ready to disclose. In the case of Balakot, accepting the loss was necessary as the IAF pilot was captured by the enemy.I must say the information warfare and general ability to absorb and dispel misinformation with Indian netizens is particularly bad. People on this forum itself are convinced that 5 jets are gone. I have been scouring the web since morning, I have absolutely zero belief in the Pakistani narratives. PoWs were there in PoK till early morning. Now, there are no Indian PoWs. Dams were safe till morning. Now, the Indians are tearing dams apart. Grow a spine and either fight or don't. Our planes went down...woo...woo. Show some resilience you can take a beating and give one. Discussion and insistence in the middle of war with absolute faith in a statistic will do you harm. Wait for the conflict to halt and then do all these shenanigans.
Shouldn't the PAF be celebrating the 5 jets right now? What's the need to escalate? If India lost 5 planes, show the evidence, state it as a win and hype it up. Aviation fuel is in shortage, the economy is non-existent, nobody is coming to fight for the other side. I must say the Pakistanis' can't wait for the '71 photo to turn into a '25 photo. Absolute Morons. However, this is to be expected.
The good part about all this is. We took out around 80-90 confirmed terrorists. Cleaned up Masood Azhar's clan.pretty sure numbers are already above that. Those locations were infested with trainee terrorist. Pak will obviously say only baby girl died.
The Chinese will feed them for good two three years. We can start funding and arming the Afghan Taliban and the Balochis. Our job is done tbf. Two aircrafts loss is acceptable considering we were the ones showing restraint and Pakistanis had all the time to prepare and plan a counter response. If they further escalate, I hope this restraining bs is finally thrown out of the window. Let's see. Destroying their airbases and brigade HQ should be on the menu next.Shouldn't the PAF be celebrating the 5 jets right now? What's the need to escalate? If India lost 5 planes, show the evidence, state it as a win and hype it up. Aviation fuel is in shortage, the economy is non-existent, nobody is coming to fight for the other side. I must say the Pakistanis' can't wait for the '71 photo to turn into a '25 photo. Absolute Morons. However, this is to be expected.
Have you noticed? Only pictures from the Indian side are clear. Whatever we see from the Pakistani side look like Nokia 3G era.
After all, India's economic development level is higher than that of Pakistan. I remember I once said that the Pakistani Air Force is a noble knight order, a small force of several hundred people composed of the most capable young people selected from Pakistani society. With the advanced weapons and equipment from abroad, they can play a significant role. However, Pakistan remains a poor and backward society, and its social foundation still consists of nomadic tribes, feudal large landlords, comprador capitalists, and bureaucrats. Is there no essential change compared to the period of British IndiaHave you noticed? Only pictures from the Indian side are clear. Whatever we see from the Pakistani side look like Nokia 3G era.
pretty sure numbers are already above that. Those locations were infested with trainee terrorist. Pak will obviously say only baby girl died.
They have 2-3 confirmed kills. All of them in our airspace. Pl-15 will be a serious problem as I had thought. Why didn't we focus on rafales being used with the meteors is another important question?Recall how they showed close-up images of IAF roundel on Abhinandan's MiG-21 after Balakot. If they'd shot down 5 of ours, ISPR would have been organizing a media tour/photo-op at the crash sites by now.
Recall how they showed close-up images of IAF roundel on Abhinandan's MiG-21 after Balakot. If they'd shot down 5 of ours, ISPR would have been organizing a media tour/photo-op at the crash sites by now.
With what face and how the GOI will announce that IAF lost 5 or whatever number of jets specially when entire media was chest thumping about stand off capabilities of SCALP and Brahmos? So they are not ready to disclose. In the case of Balakot, accepting the loss was necessary as the IAF pilot was captured by the enemy.
Looks like IAF did another shit show much bigger that Balakot.
I will be very happy if I have to retract the above statements if all the claims are proved false.
There's nothing noble or knightly about the PAF. Please *censored*. Their operating style is of full on desperation and deception. I wonder how many pl-15 missiles were wasted to get our aircrafts though.After all, India's economic development level is higher than that of Pakistan. I remember I once said that the Pakistani Air Force is a noble knight order, a small force of several hundred people composed of the most capable young people selected from Pakistani society. With the advanced weapons and equipment from abroad, they can play a significant role. However, Pakistan remains a poor and backward society, and its social foundation still consists of nomadic tribes, feudal large landlords, comprador capitalists, and bureaucrats. Is there no essential change compared to the period of British India
Recall how they showed close-up images of IAF roundel on Abhinandan's MiG-21 after Balakot. If they'd shot down 5 of ours, ISPR would have been organizing a media tour/photo-op at the crash sites by now.
Who has confirmed it?They have 2-3 confirmed kills. All of them in our airspace. Pl-15 will be a serious problem as I had thought. Why didn't we focus on rafales being used with the meteors is another important question?
They have 2-3 confirmed kills. All of them in our airspace. Pl-15 will be a serious problem as I had thought. Why didn't we focus on rafales being used with the meteors is another important question?
Who knows? That's Pakistan's own business. Missiles are like rifle bullets, consumables in the warThere's nothing noble or knightly about the PAF. Please *censored*. There operating style is of full on desperation. I wonder how many pl-15 missiles were wasted to get our aircrafts though.
What lesson have you taught them? Is your job truly done? A lesson is something that has a long term effect. Have your forces really learnt nothing or are they incapable of doing full spectrum warfare? IAF strikes....this is it? surgical strike 2.0...my apologies but I do not find myself quaking. Hold onto that photo of Mr. Gandhi and keep your munitions for surgical strike 3.0. Show some teeth for godsake.The Chinese will feed them for good two three years. We can start funding and arming the Afghan Taliban and the Balochis. Our job is done tbf. Two aircrafts loss is acceptable considering we were the ones showing restraint and Pakistanis had all the time to prepare and plan a counter response. If they further escalate, I hope this restraining bs is finally thrown out of the window. Let's see. Destroying their airbases and brigade HQ should be on the menu next.
With whatever face it has left. Either show some spine or back off and sit down. Indians, your capability to see blood and destruction is disappointing. Losses can be recovered but optimum windows for military operations are rare.With what face and how the GOI will announce that IAF lost 5 or whatever number of jets specially when entire media was chest thumping about stand off capabilities of SCALP and Brahmos? So they are not ready to disclose. In the case of Balakot, accepting the loss was necessary as the IAF pilot was captured by the enemy.
Looks like IAF did another shit show much bigger that Balakot.
I will be very happy if I have to retract the above statements if all the claims are proved false.