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Our members from Pakistan dont even have an Idea as to what is going to hit them and how bad they are cornered. Let me explain. As on date there is no way that Pakistan can even survive 5 days in an all out war. Their only defense is their so called nukes. I saw the statement of their Def Min that if Pakistan does not survive, they will finish off the world. How stupid can anyone be. Do they think that when they start hitting other countries like Israel and Europe, rest of the world will not use their nukes?
Secondly, Our satellites and that of our friendly countries have the ability to pin point any kind of concentrated nuke radiation anywhere on earth. Indian nukes are already mated on the missiles and can be fired in under 5 minutes but Pak stores its nukes separately from the missiles and TEL. The moment they move out a TEL, we will know it, the moment they bring out the nukes for mating with missiles, we will know it and the whole process of mating the nuke to the missile and the TEL takes over an hour. Does any member think that India will wait for Pakistan to fire the nukes on India? Our NFU is designed to be activated the moment a threat of use of nukes arise. This means we will go into full force pre-emptive strike to take out not just the nukes but complete Pakistan.
Thirdly, Pak Navy will be below water in less than 30 minutes of start of war. Brahmos of Naval shore battery from Okha can hit ships in Pasni which is just 500 kms from there. We dont even need to use our ships for the job. The air bases east of Indus will be hit by spice250/SAAW and each and every aircraft shelter will be hit from within the Indian Air space by SU-30MKIs and Jags even if they are empty. The aim is to take out large number of PAF aircraft on ground. The air bases west of Indus will be visited by Mig-29Ks of IN. The aim will be to severly degrade PAF within first 24 hrs of the war.
Fourthly we will mount an intense pressure on Pak Punjab border to take out the part of North Punjab along the Narowal-Sialkot-Gujrat axis by attacking it from 3 sides Using IBGs and keeping one of our strike corps in reserve. Sindh will be taken out by the other strike corps as the Karachi corps alongwith Quetta corps has moved to Punjab to defend Punjab at all costs. The Army reserve North and South of Pak Army will also be fighting more of a defensive battles than attacking.

Wherever you go into battle, you must a well defined AIM and also must have a very good exit strategy to stop the war to achieve the overall aim either thru battle or thru negotiations after the battle. I expect a major territory gain in Sindh around Pak Hyderabad and Mirpur Khas in south Sindh and north Punjab which will lead to a negotiated settlement of POJK with Pakistan withdrawing from those areas. If this does not happen and Pak Generals insist on holding onto POJK, The war will stretch to over a month in which we will take over complete Sindh and Balochistan and by then Pak Army will have severly depleted to even Defend Punjab and will capitulate.

If this happens

10 gareeb goron ko daru pilaunga
 
You are giving him too much credit.
I'm not giving sweetie any credit. Sweetie's still 17 . Still not got a driver's license & depends on mom dearest to get to school.
The global cabal cashes its cheques before the first blow lands. Now they want us to use all we have so they have assured business for the next few years.
It's boom time for them all the way till 2035 possibly even beyond that in some cases.
Le Innominate - He just wants CoD - India Pak edition. Simpler minds - simpler pleasures.
Baccha hain lekin harami baccha hain. I wouldn't use simple in the same sentence with sweetie ever . Ja ? @Innominate
 
If Pakistan is disintegrates it will be good for Pakistan Punjabis. They can then rename themselves as Emirate of Punjab or Islamic Republic of Punjab. Pakistan will die and with that all the loans they have taken from the world need not be repaid as the loans were taken by Pakistan which will no longer exist. So it will bring a landfall profit to Pak Punjab. I remember the words of Kaka Hathrasi, "Karja khake marja" which literally means take a loan, enjoy on it and then die. No need to repay the loan but enjoy whole life on loans.
 
If Pakistan is disintegrates it will be good for Pakistan Punjabis. They can then rename themselves as Emirate of Punjab or Islamic Republic of Punjab. Pakistan will die and with that all the loans they have taken from the world need not be repaid as the loans were taken by Pakistan which will no longer exist. So it will bring a landfall profit to Pak Punjab. I remember the words of Kaka Hathrasi, "Karja khake marja" which literally means take a loan, enjoy on it and then die. No need to repay the loan but enjoy whole life on loans.
The tfr differential between pakjabis and pushtoons and gradual enroachment of pashtuns (incl Afghan ones) into east Indus lands will add more pressure on pakjabis, coupled with general resentment that pushtoons and baloch don't pay their fair share it would be good for pakjab to start clean state imo
 
The tfr differential between pakjabis and pushtoons and gradual enroachment of pashtuns (incl Afghan ones) into east Indus lands will add more pressure on pakjabis, coupled with general resentment that pushtoons and baloch don't pay their fair share it would be good for pakjab to start clean state imo

There will be a lot of friction between the smaller new states resulting in opportunities for India and other nations to exert influence. China, US, UK, EU, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia and even Japan to some extent will waltz in. A potential new great game - especially with the resource rich Balochistan, Sindh area
 
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The tfr differential between pakjabis and pushtoons and gradual enroachment of pashtuns (incl Afghan ones) into east Indus lands will add more pressure on pakjabis, coupled with general resentment that pushtoons and baloch don't pay their fair share it would be good for pakjab to start clean state imo
The new so called Emirate of Punjab or whatever will not survive either as it will be constantly attacked by Baloch and Afghans who will pick up their girls as Londies like one of their senior news anchor was talking about making Indian Actresses as his Londies. The survival of whatever is left of so called Pakistan will depend solely on them reverting back to Sanatan and asking for help from Bharat.
 
Our members from Pakistan dont even have an Idea as to what is going to hit them and how bad they are cornered. Let me explain. As on date there is no way that Pakistan can even survive 5 days in an all out war. Their only defense is their so called nukes. I saw the statement of their Def Min that if Pakistan does not survive, they will finish off the world. How stupid can anyone be. Do they think that when they start hitting other countries like Israel and Europe, rest of the world will not use their nukes?
Secondly, Our satellites and that of our friendly countries have the ability to pin point any kind of concentrated nuke radiation anywhere on earth. Indian nukes are already mated on the missiles and can be fired in under 5 minutes but Pak stores its nukes separately from the missiles and TEL. The moment they move out a TEL, we will know it, the moment they bring out the nukes for mating with missiles, we will know it and the whole process of mating the nuke to the missile and the TEL takes over an hour. Does any member think that India will wait for Pakistan to fire the nukes on India? Our NFU is designed to be activated the moment a threat of use of nukes arise. This means we will go into full force pre-emptive strike to take out not just the nukes but complete Pakistan.
Thirdly, Pak Navy will be below water in less than 30 minutes of start of war. Brahmos of Naval shore battery from Okha can hit ships in Pasni which is just 500 kms from there. We dont even need to use our ships for the job. The air bases east of Indus will be hit by spice250/SAAW and each and every aircraft shelter will be hit from within the Indian Air space by SU-30MKIs and Jags even if they are empty. The aim is to take out large number of PAF aircraft on ground. The air bases west of Indus will be visited by Mig-29Ks of IN. The aim will be to severly degrade PAF within first 24 hrs of the war.
Fourthly we will mount an intense pressure on Pak Punjab border to take out the part of North Punjab along the Narowal-Sialkot-Gujrat axis by attacking it from 3 sides Using IBGs and keeping one of our strike corps in reserve. Sindh will be taken out by the other strike corps as the Karachi corps alongwith Quetta corps has moved to Punjab to defend Punjab at all costs. The Army reserve North and South of Pak Army will also be fighting more of a defensive battles than attacking.

Wherever you go into battle, you must a well defined AIM and also must have a very good exit strategy to stop the war to achieve the overall aim either thru battle or thru negotiations after the battle. I expect a major territory gain in Sindh around Pak Hyderabad and Mirpur Khas in south Sindh and north Punjab which will lead to a negotiated settlement of POJK with Pakistan withdrawing from those areas. If this does not happen and Pak Generals insist on holding onto POJK, The war will stretch to over a month in which we will take over complete Sindh and Balochistan and by then Pak Army will have severly depleted to even Defend Punjab and will capitulate.
This is the axis I talked about,
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You have posited your argument centered around a nuclear war. But what if the goal is well below that?

With everything said and done to date by the powers that be, it doesn't look like the aim is the destruction of Pakistan.
 
There will be a lot of friction between the smaller new states resulting in opportunities for India and other nations to exert influence. China, US, UK, EU, Iran, Afghanistan, Russia and even Japan to some extent will waltz in. A potential new great game - especially with the resource rich Balochistan, Sindh area
Sindh will become a part of India as it will the first ever time in History of the world that a province will acquire a nation which happens to be the 4th largest economy of the world. Balochistan will become a protectorate of India. No other nation will be allowed to get it.Later even Balochistan will merge with India.
 
If this happens

10 gareeb goron ko daru pilaunga
We get bogged down in ground operations & you're looking at another Ukraine like situation. Target their assets which is the reason I suggested target PN & PAF but as far as possible don't target their bases. Hunt the former down in the seas & the latter in the air .

Leave the PA intact. By doing so you give them incentive not to escalate or prolong the conflict.

Call for a unilateral CF once you've achieved these goals or anything close to it . Then graduate the LIC across the LoC in a short span of time such that you tie down a significant number of their troops there leaving the rest of Paxtan open for the Balochi Sarmachars , the TTP & other such tanzeems to have a field day .

Pump up the funds you provide these groups thru the Taliban - Afghanistan , sit back & watch them burn . In the meanwhile implement projects across the western rivers whose waters under the IWT were meant exclusively for Paxtan on a war footing.

Keep an eye on their N facilities . Co ordinate with our westen allies such that the moment we're presented an opportunity we go for de fanging them . Easier said than done I know .

But it's the best we can do given the circumstances although I'd prefer Fauji Foundation to fire a couple at us when the final confrontation comes a decade from now as Paxtan further sinks & they know there's not a chance in hell they'd survive intact as a nation so why not take India down with us in a hum toh doobe sanam .... kind of mindset.

Use that as a pretext to annihilate them to a man from the face of the earth for a Paxtan fragmenting will solve one set of problems & create a completely new set of problems.

It's be something akin to what Israel is facing in the ME raised to the power of 10. We'd have to devote considerable energies time & resources to tackling the remnants of the Paxtani state for today while you can kick Fauji Foundation in the nuts or backside today & force them into compliance for at least a few years before they scratch that irresistible itch again, tomorrow when you have a condition of no central authority with an extremely radicalised population having an average mean demographic age of ~ 25 , diminished agriculture , no industry worth the name , no economy , depleted water reserves , narco terrorism fuelled by criminals masquerading as religious groups ruling the roost , an amorphous state whose writ is extremely limited ,etc. you'd be engaged in a whack a mole daily exercise.

Better we go in for the final solution with whatever damages we face being a one time affair instead of the practically daily tamasha we'd face in the future.
 
You have posited your argument centered around a nuclear war. But what if the goal is well below that?

With everything said and done to date by the powers that be, it doesn't look like the aim is the destruction of Pakistan.
I talked about the ultimate level of escalation matrix. Anything below that suits India much more than Pakistan. If they want to keep it non nuke, they have no chance whatsoever. Only thing is that the war may stretch to over a month.
We get bogged down in ground operations & you're looking at another Ukraine like situation. Target their assets which is the reason I suggested target PN & PAF but as far as possible don't target their bases. Hunt the former down in the seas & the latter in the air .

Leave the PA intact. By doing so you give them incentive not to escalate or prolong the conflict.

Call for a unilateral CF once you've achieved these goals or anything close to it . Then graduate the LIC across the LoC in a short span of time such that you tie down a significant number of their troops there leaving the rest of Paxtan open for the Balochi Sarmachars , the TTP & other such tanzeems to have a field day .

Pump up the funds you provide these groups thru the Taliban - Afghanistan , sit back & watch them burn . In the meanwhile implement projects across the western rivers whose waters under the IWT were meant exclusively for Paxtan on a war footing.

Keep an eye on their N facilities . Co ordinate with our westen allies such that the moment we're presented an opportunity we go for de fanging them . Easier said than done I know .

But it's the best we can do given the circumstances although I'd prefer Fauji Foundation to fire a couple at us when the final confrontation comes a decade from now as Paxtan further sinks & they know there's not a chance in hell they'd survive intact as a nation so why not take India down with us in a hum toh doobe sanam .... kind of mindset.

Use that as a pretext to annihilate them to a man from the face of the earth for a Paxtan fragmenting will solve one set of problems & create a completely new set of problems.

It's be something akin to what Israel is facing in the ME raised to the power of 10. We'd have to devote considerable energies time & resources to tackling the remnants of the Paxtani state for today while you can kick Fauji Foundation in the nuts or backside today & force them into compliance for at least a few years before they scratch that irresistible itch again, when you have a condition of no central authority with an extremely radicalised population having an average mean demographic age of ~ 25 , diminished agriculture , no industry worth the name , no economy , depleted water reserves , narco terrorism fuelled by criminals masquerading as religious groups ruling the roost , an amorphous state whose writ is extremely limited ,etc.

Better we go in for the final solution with whatever damages we face being a one time affair instead of the practically daily tamasha we'd face in the future.
Pls do not use Ukraine as template for Indo-Pak war. Russians were pure stupid, they misread the whole situation plus it was NATO which was fighting Russia using Ukraine territory.
 
Excellency Answering your points one by one

Who is omar abdullah? the treaty was signed by both countries and not some omar abdullah.
He is the CM of JK. For future reference a quick google search helps

Who is omar abdullah? the treaty was signed by both countries and not some omar abdullah. I remember the visit of your PM. No evidence was given after pathankot as well. Whatever we received from you was blame that this organization is involved and not real time actual evidence. You are blaming us since 1990. I mean 1990. it's 2025 now.
ISI team visited Pathankot and saw evidence first hand

You are being naughty since 1990, its time you got spanked

I think water treaty should be respected. We have people on both sides who has relatives in each others country. We can always talk but the process of communication is denied from your side since 2015.
We respectfully put the treaty in Abeyance Excellency and respectfully informed you. Did the letter have curse words?
Why do you feel there was a lack of respect?

I mean we are also a country.
Sadly yes ... for now....

It's not like we aren't important.
No you are not. This is not a negotiation.

Many countries still need us because of our geographical and strategic importance.
Name one ??? Just one with reasons.

At least sit and listen. You only want war. There is no talk, only war. From the last 12 days, almost every person related to your armed forces visited PM Modi. at the end of the day, why all this? Why now?
Your actions led to the downfall of the Congress. Your actions led to Indian voters voting in a party that promised a tough stand on Pakistan. Your actions led the strong PM to warn you in 16, bomb you in 19.

And what did you do? You did another attack.

So now the peace brigade is asking for your head so once you are gone, the peace brigade can have their peace at last.
 
We get bogged down in ground operations & you're looking at another Ukraine like situation. Target their assets which is the reason I suggested target PN & PAF but as far as possible don't target their bases. Hunt the former down in the seas & the latter in the air .

Leave the PA intact. By doing so you give them incentive not to escalate or prolong the conflict.

Call for a unilateral CF once you've achieved these goals or anything close to it . Then graduate the LIC across the LoC in a short span of time such that you tie down a significant number of their troops there leaving the rest of Paxtan open for the Balochi Sarmachars , the TTP & other such tanzeems to have a field day .

Pump up the funds you provide these groups thru the Taliban - Afghanistan , sit back & watch them burn . In the meanwhile implement projects across the western rivers whose waters under the IWT were meant exclusively for Paxtan on a war footing.

Keep an eye on their N facilities . Co ordinate with our westen allies such that the moment we're presented an opportunity we go for de fanging them . Easier said than done I know .

But it's the best we can do given the circumstances although I'd prefer Fauji Foundation to fire a couple at us when the final confrontation comes a decade from now as Paxtan further sinks & they know there's not a chance in hell they'd survive intact as a nation so why not take India down with us in a hum toh doobe sanam .... kind of mindset.

Use that as a pretext to annihilate them to a man from the face of the earth for a Paxtan fragmenting will solve one set of problems & create a completely new set of problems.

It's be something akin to what Israel is facing in the ME raised to the power of 10. We'd have to devote considerable energies time & resources to tackling the remnants of the Paxtani state for today while you can kick Fauji Foundation in the nuts or backside today & force them into compliance for at least a few years before they scratch that irresistible itch again, tomorrow when you have a condition of no central authority with an extremely radicalised population having an average mean demographic age of ~ 25 , diminished agriculture , no industry worth the name , no economy , depleted water reserves , narco terrorism fuelled by criminals masquerading as religious groups ruling the roost , an amorphous state whose writ is extremely limited ,etc. you'd be engaged in a whack a mole daily exercise.

Better we go in for the final solution with whatever damages we face being a one time affair instead of the practically daily tamasha we'd face in the future.

These points need a 1-1 chit chat. Why cant I DM you?
 
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What happened? What happened was just two of our MKIs holding your 8 F-16 formation all by themselves and turning Swift Retort to Swift Retreat. Lol.

You'll see the full might of MKI when the balloon goes up. Till then enjoy your delusions.
We had Abhi nandan. You had none . That's what happened.
And you panicked and shot down own helicopter.
The biggest Indian casualty in that skirmish was from India themselves.
That's what happened
 
We had Abhi nandan. You had none . That's what happened.
And you panicked and shot down own helicopter.
The biggest Indian casualty in that skirmish was from India themselves.
That's what happened
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Fauji Foundation getting their pants taken off in 1971. This exercise should've been repeated once every decade by Indian Army for Fauji Foundation has a bad memory.

Alhamdulillah !
 
Yes.
Similar claims were made about SU 30.MKI being mini AWACS .
Then what happened?

Our fighters violated Pakistan.... But you people weren't able to do a shit about it even though PAF is in Highest Level of Alert and IAF still not opening up all the capabilities it has. That should be enough to give Shivers to any knowledgeable & sensible man (of course madrasa chaps can still dream about Army of Jinns coming to Pakistan's rescue to defeat India)....😂😎
 
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@Mods and other senior members of this site may recall that I had told them that this site is read by our security forces. many things I wrote here came true after cpl of months. Even the @Mods agreed. I told after Galwan to reassign one of the strike Corps to China border as we had created IBGs for Pakistan Front. It happened. I also stated that we must move and occupy better higher grounds in Laddakh and we did that as well. read out the date of my posts and how the IA did exactly that a cpl of months later.
Now I am suggesting here that our PM must include the words of Late FM Sam Manekshaw which he used to ask for surrender of East Pakistan forces in his address to nation to start the war with Pakistan or post starting the war. Our Intel tells us that ordinary Pak solider is really upset for two reasons, first the Generals who have forced this war have sent their own families to safety while the families of the Soldiers is still within Pakistan. They are not willing to die for such Generals.
Secondly the Pak Army is deeply divided between PTI supporters and those who want to keep Pakistan together. Once Modis gives, "Modi Ki Guarantee that all those who surrender and refuse to fight Indian Forces will be treated with respect and dignity, You will see Pak army surrendering in toto all across the borders or we may see Pak army fighting eachother. Yaad rakhna mere ye shabd.
 

Our fighters violated Pakistan.... But you people weren't able to do a shot about it even though PAF is in Highest Level of Alert and IAF still not opening up all the capabilities it has. That should be enough to give Shivers to any knowledgeable & sensible man (of course madrasa chaps can still dream about Jin for e coming to Pakistan's rescue to defeat India)....😂😎
Pak detected but did not try to engage.

Why did they not engage ? The answers tell you all you need to know.
 
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Dimran Khansama tunnel.

Inaugurated by a M̶a̶j̶o̶r̶ a few Majors & ordinary grunts of Fauji Foundation who then drove an entire convoy thru it.

Will play a huge part in forthcoming hostilities, I'm told. The tunnel that is . Not Dimran Khansama or Fauji Foundation.

What're your opinions on Dimran Khansama tunnel serving as extremely vital for beating the retreat operations by Fauji Foundation maamu ? @safriz
 
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