Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

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Zer0end said:
are you in pakistan? or in UK? What is the current situation in pakistan? are your military going to attack first ? .
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Currently I am in a ditch under my bed ...which I dug in fear of Indian military might .
I am also wearing a tin foil hat.

On a serious note, Twitter is blocked in Pakistan, so Pakistanis are being deprived of the online wars , which everyone enjoys.
Other than that nothing has changed.
The water war India is waging may have long term effects, but nothing immediate

STEPHEN COHEN said:
Exactly, Destroying their War Machine should be our Aim

Given their economy and industrial capacities, it would take them a lot of time and money to replace the lost assets

No country will give anything free to them
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Striking enemy war machines is the plan in any way between countries anywhere in the world since wars began.
What's new here? Am I missing something?
 
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Speedster1 said:
Just yesterday or maybe the day before, there were reports that Israel had delivered PGMs to India. I'm fairly sure this piece of news is to counter that. Stratcom is clearly a psy-ops Twitter handle run by ISPR.

But PL-15 does have a range of 200km as confirmed by Huitong over at Chinese Military Aviation Blog. No mention of AESA seeker though.

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It's not clear whether they supplied PL-15(domestic version) or PL-15E(export version), but the domestic version indeed has an AESA RF seeker:

The PL-15 has a dual-pulse rocket motor that provides a reported range of 124 miles. Another important feature is a two-way datalink that allows the launching aircraft to provide guidance updates to the missile.
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The missile seeker uses active electronically scanned array (AESA) technology, with active and passive modes, and it’s claimed to have better resistance to countermeasures than previous Chinese air-to-air missiles.
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New Version Of Chinese PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Tailored For Stealth Fighters Revealed

A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile will equip the J-35 and will likely expand the J-20's internal carriage from four to six. A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile may be key to providing medium-range internal weapons for the J-35 stealth fighter.
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This is the missile that even scared the Americans and kick-started AIM-260 JATM's development. We've to be ready for all scenario and not underestinate the enemy or its Abbu(China).

Our Astra 2 is a proper counter to it. But in its absence we need Derby ER or R-37M to counter or outgun it(in latter's case). Else, all our BVRs are outgunned against PL-15 except Meteor.
 
safriz said:
Currently I am in a ditch under my bed ...which I dug in fear of Indian military might .
I am also wearing a tin foil hat.

On a serious note, Twitter is blocked in Pakistan, so Pakistanis are being deprived of the online wars , which everyone enjoys.
Other than that nothing has changed.
The water war India is waging may have long term effects, but nothing immediate
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I assume you are in UK. No need to fear Indian military. We don't target civilians as your Pakistani armed forces does.

On a serious note, what do you think pakistan government should do in this situation and what are pakistani public opinions on Asim munir. is it true that pakistani government has no power and it's pakistan military who decide every domestic and international matter? Do majority of pakistani want's kashmir including you
 
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Missiles on terrorist target would not be consider War, is it ? we should test private sector military equipment. Also I want women officer to lead, to see their capabilities in real war scenario. All Indian Private sector should be allowed to participate.
 
Some online activity from PAF Twitter handles.
They released this picture of J-17 Blk 3 with 4x PL-15. Those dual rack mounted.
I hope they get into some real action instead of posting online.

For whatever reason they aren't flaunting J-10c much
 
Rajput Lion said:
It's not clear whether they supplied PL-15(domestic version) or PL-15E(export version), but the domestic version indeed has an AESA RF seeker:





Source:
www.twz.com

New Version Of Chinese PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Tailored For Stealth Fighters Revealed

A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile will equip the J-35 and will likely expand the J-20's internal carriage from four to six. A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile may be key to providing medium-range internal weapons for the J-35 stealth fighter.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

This is the missile that even scared the Americans and kick-started AIM-260 JATM's development. We've to be ready for all scenario and not underestinate the enemy or its Abbu(China).

Our Astra 2 is a proper counter to it. But in its absence we need Derby ER or R-37M to counter or outgun it(in latter's case). Else, all our BVRs are outgunned against PL-15 except Meteor.
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With Meteor this time we will have S400 and MRSAM deployed.
 
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Zer0end said:
Missiles on terrorist target would not be consider War, is it ? we should test private sector military equipment. Also I want women officer to lead, to see their capabilities in real war scenario. All Indian Private sector should be allowed to participate.
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Pls do not act like Pakistanis here. They only do this mistake of misjudging the options and counters action India can take.
 
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Zer0end said:
I assume you are in UK. No need to fear Indian military. We don't target civilians as your Pakistani armed forces does.

On a serious note, what do you think pakistan government should do in this situation and what are pakistani public opinions on Asim munir. is it true that pakistani government has no power and it's pakistan military who decide every domestic and international matter? Do majority of pakistani want's kashmir including you
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Yes . I was in Pakistan in February.
Got to use my MP 5 , Kalashnikov and Glock after a very long time.
Turns out my marksmanship has deteriorated.
I could make a 6 inch group at 100 meters,with my then prised possession M1 bolt action. That was in 1989 . The M1 had a lot more recoil than my current collection.
With the toys I had in Pakistan, I could only make a 1 foot group at 50 meters.
My brother was making fun of me.

Sorry got sidetracked, you made me remember my recent times in Pakistan.

Other than that there are no immediate charges in public mood or how people are living.
Yes nobody likes the current army chief and the current government.
But like I said , war unites us. Everyone will forget how bad the government and army chief are, if a war with India starts
Even the political party who's 10k workers are still in military custody has announced full support for the army if India attacks.
 
Rajput Lion said:
It's not clear whether they supplied PL-15(domestic version) or PL-15E(export version), but the domestic version indeed has an AESA RF seeker:





Source:
www.twz.com

New Version Of Chinese PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Tailored For Stealth Fighters Revealed

A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile will equip the J-35 and will likely expand the J-20's internal carriage from four to six. A folding-fin version of the active-radar-guided missile may be key to providing medium-range internal weapons for the J-35 stealth fighter.
www.twz.com www.twz.com

This is the missile that even scared the Americans and kick-started AIM-260 JATM's development. We've to be ready for all scenario and not underestinate the enemy or its Abbu(China).

Our Astra 2 is a proper counter to it. But in its absence we need Derby ER or R-37M to counter or outgun it(in latter's case). Else, all our BVRs are outgunned against PL-15 except Meteor.
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India will have to play it’s cards right for this - last time it was AMRAAMs, if it is indeed the domestic version (with AESA seeker), it will be a big headache for IAF
 
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STEPHEN COHEN said:
Exactly, Destroying their War Machine should be our Aim

Given their economy and industrial capacities, it would take them a lot of time and money to replace the lost assets

No country will give anything free to them
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Pls understand that out of some 19 odd divisions which Pak Army has, 13 are deployed to defend Just Punjab. For Pak Army, Sindh and Balochistan are sacrificial goats which they will use to nuke Indian IBGs with tactical nukes and casualty of Sindhis is acceptable for them. But what they do not know is that even the movement of a tactical nuke will make India Retaliate or pre-emptively strike whole of Punjab. Long back I had written here about how our SFCs will work to take out 75% of Pak population within 5 minutes.
 
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PAF has swedish doctrine.
This was conceived in the cold war era.
The doctrine is based on power mismatch, and a smaller air force fighting a much larger and far more resourceful enemy.
 
safriz said:
Yes . I was in Pakistan in February.
Got to use my MP 5 , Kalashnikov and Glock after a very long time.
Turns out my marksmanship has deteriorated.
I could make a 6 inch group at 100 meters,with my then prised possession M1 bolt action. That was in 1989 . The M1 had a lot more recoil than my current collection.
With the toys I had in Pakistan, I could only make a 1 foot group at 50 meters.
My brother was making fun of me.

Sorry got sidetracked, you made me remember my recent times in Pakistan.

Other than that there are no immediate charges in public mood or how people are living.
Yes nobody likes the current army chief and the current government.
But like I said , war unites us. Everyone will forget how bad the government and army chief are, if a war with India starts
Even the political party who's 10k workers are still in military custody has announced full support for the army if India attacks.
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You have answered public opinion on asim munir and current government , Now answer remaining question
 
Speedster1 said:
Just yesterday or maybe the day before, there were reports that Israel had delivered PGMs to India. I'm fairly sure this piece of news is to counter that. Stratcom is clearly a psy-ops Twitter handle run by ISPR.

But PL-15 does have a range of 200km as confirmed by Huitong over at Chinese Military Aviation Blog. No mention of AESA seeker though.

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If true its shame, we still need to import things on war footing in 2025,six years after Balakot.
 
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